Gocko- Skandynawska
http://www.igenea.com/index.php?c=132&st=107

Genau.
Diese Gruppe tritt nur in der Kaschubei. Das ist genau Wielbark-Kultur Bereich.
Ich will noch mehr sagen, das ist ein Zweig der alten skandinavischen R1a1 (Norwegen, Schweden und kaschubisch-Gotiscandza)
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13-25-15-11-11-14-12-12-11-13-11-30-Kashubian „Ga”
13-25-15-11-11- 11-13-11-30-Lichtensteinhöhle

und verbindet alle drei Länder „ stone circles“ in Norway, Sweden und Polen (Kashubian-Gotiscandza) Hg R1a1.


The present view is that the direct settlements of Goths (recorded by Jordanes as well as H. Schedel, see link)
at the Mare Germanicum, today Poland, are those characterised by barrow cemeteries by which there are
raised stone circles and solitary stelae (Scandinavian burial customs with a concentration in Gotland and
Götaland). This type is found between the Vistula and the Kashubian and Krajenskian lakelands
reaching into the Koszalin region. These burial grounds appeared in the second half of the 1st century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Circle_(Iron_Age)
Example locations
• Gettlinge burial field, Oland, Sweden
• Hulterstad gravfalt, Oland, Sweden
• Jelling stones, Velje, Denmark
• Stoplesteinan, Norway
• Odry, Poland
• Wesiory burial ground, Poland
• Stonecircle in Hunn , Norway
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Cluster "G". Pomeranian. This type was suggested to me by Mayka, who calls it the Pomeranian cluster. Pomerania is the name of the region on the south shore of the Baltic Sea including regions of both Germany and Poland. Marcin Wozniak found the G modal haplotype (at 12 markers) to be very common among Kashubians. Kashubians consider themselves an ethnic group or nationality within Poland. It will be interesting to determine if Kashubians in Poland have a higher % concentration of G type than German Pomeranians. Meanwhile, “Pomeranian” is a convenient neutral name, suggests Mayka.

G type is mentioned only briefly in my publication because not much data was available to me at that time. My GType.xls update analysis file with June 2010 data has excellent results: There are 12 samples in a nice type with SBP = 11.2%. There is preliminary evidence of a subtype, Ga, SBP = 23%, but with only 4 samples I did not enter a modal in Ysearch; see Haplotypes.xls for a list including hypothetical working modals.

Und ähnlich Cluster "L" R1a1 - Scandinavian
auch "Lichterstein Cave" - R1a
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Hallo Peter,

ich habe in Ihrem Beitrag das R1a bei den Basken zu R1b korrigiert, damit keine Verwirrung aufkommt.

Die Theorie, dass R1b (und R1a) Europa schon vor 35.000 bis 40.000 Jahren besiedelt hätten findet heute kaum noch Zustimmung.
Das europäische R1b ist fast ausschliesslich R1b1b2. Diese Gruppe wird auf maximal 9.000 Jahre geschätzt (ehger 5.000 bis 8.000) und ist vermutlich in der heutigen Türkei entstanden.
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